Do you think Sarah Palin should run for president in 2012?
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Do you think Sarah Palin should run for president in 2012?
Do you think Sarah Palin should run for president in 2012?
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She has no business in any part of government, including washing the floors in government buildings. Her 15 minutes of PAIN (for all of US) is over. Palin needs to go away and never be heard from again.
I cannot wait when she runs again. She is going to make Mr. obama run with his tale between his legs. Being articulate does not make you experience and Obama was all about a spell of sweet talk and the young and the ignorants listen without checking the facts. Get ready , darkness just started. He won due to his terrorist friend's help and soon enough it will be revealed.
LoL! Good moniker. I see the cowboy states (OK,WY,etc) went big for McCain, but I'm guessing that had nothing to do with the substance of either party's platform, if you get my drift.....no, I guess you don't get it.
For Heaven Sakes! does everybody on this page think that doing your homework is watching the news? She is more qualified than the bias media makes her out to be. And I Know that she would make a good Pres because I do my homework and look at the important issues! now all of you need grow up and get off her case, she lost this round and obama won! but his time will come to an inevidtble end, and when it does, if god hasn't destroyed this country yet, then She would be a good Rpublican Candidate. MORE POWER TO HER if she picks herself up from this and runs it will truely show her determination and dedication!
Palin to date as a Governor does not know Africa is a continent,not a country,doesn't know what the duties of a VP are and much more.How can she run for president in 2012 without enrolling in a GED program,then completing four "real" years of college,Is anyone with a logical thinking mind believes that a Palin's Presidency is even remotely possible.We are talking about the world's most important job here,for crying out loud.
To all of you....."At least she serves the Lord & this country with a Servants Heart." You people are so mean spirited. Pharoah has hardened your heart. You need to seek the Lord. Folks, we are in the "End Times." There are some really strange things surrounding Obama. You better open your eyes. My prediction, when Obama get's into office you'll have 6 months for him to get things repaired. Don't be suprised if we become a predominantly Muslim nation. That might be more smoke & mirrors....at first. But, then you'll have 3 1/2 years of Plenty. And it will be great. We will be rolling in the dough. Then he'll get elected again.......That's when all hell will break out!!! I don't think Obama is the anti-christ....but somethings not right.
Oldcowboy has to be kidding! Isn't he?
Sarah Palin thought Africa was a country and couldn't name the nations involved in NAFTA! The Republican party can't possibly expect to be taken seriously until it stops insulting the intelligence of the American people (well, most of them) with the likes of George W. Bush and Sarah Palin.
And Obama has more experience? The only reason he knows that Africa is a continent is because he was very likely born there and not eligible to be president in the first place! Let's see how Obama handles the massive responsibilities of the Oval Office, when he has to "do" rather than "talk". Not saying that Palin is more qualified, she most likely is not. However, we have no reason to believe that Obama has the qualifications for the most important position in the world. Someone should keep track of his promises and see on how many he delivers and the impact on the already devastated American economy. Whew, so glad I don't have to worry about my mortgage or health care anymore. Obama to the rescue!
Apparently, disagreeing with Josh proves someone to be under-educated.
I find this confusing when introducing the fact that Palin is grossly under-educated for the role of President. After 1 or 2 semesters at 4 different colleges, she finally got a 3 semester degree in what? Journalism?
Seriously, if school was kicking your butt, what will Congress do to you?
BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM. PLEASE STOP THIS MADNESS AND YES I AM YELLING.
Barack Obama is a Christian. Rumors that he is or was a Muslim have been proven false.
Barack Obama has proclaimed his Christianity throughout his entire campaign. He embraces basic Christian principles like equality, forgiveness, and helping others.
R.Crockett usually posts something to that effect. We're used to it. Some people missed the memo that the muslim smear didn't work, you know, that about 62.9 million people voted for him and he was elected.
do & TN How come there are about 20 law suits against him? How come he won't let us see his school & college records? How come his grandmother say's he was born in Kenya? How come we can't see his medical records? How come he work on Election Fraud? (He knows how to commit fraud) How come he said,"My religion, reffering to the Muslim religion on George Stepfanopolis? How come he had that sparkle in his eye when he talked about the evening prayer & could sing the chant? How come he voted not to let us drill in this country??? It it because he wants us to keep sending money to Islamic countries? you seem to have all the answers! please answer the above questions for me. inquiring minds would love to know.
The only question that you need to ask yourself is WHY IS HE THE PRESIDENT?
Because 62 million Americans voted for him.....
But YOU are the only one who knows the truth......And then you woke up!
Sounds like some superiority complex that has been refuted and NO LONGER APPLIES......
NEXT!
ObamaDiva......I am asking you & all the others that voted for him these questions. His life should be an open book. Your argument scares the heck out of someone like me. You just follow the crowd? Did you just vote because that was the popular thing to do? Did you know the issues? I know he didn't have much of a record....but what he did, was pretty awful in my opinion. So, NO....I don't know the truth. Do You???
Obama was born in Hawaii, and did not come from a wealthy family. After graduating high school from Punahou School in Hawaii, he attended Occidental College for two years, then got his B.A. from Columbia University. He later got his law degree from Harvard Law School (where he became the Harvard Law Review's first black president), graduating magna cum laude. Obama was also a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School. He is a Christian. He is not a socialist, a Marxist or a terrorist. He is not a friend of William Ayers; they served together on a committee in Chicago. Ayers now teaches at the University of Chicago Law School. If someone is concerned about Obama's educational gravitas, please research info about Columbia University, Harvard Law School, magna cum laude at Harvard Law School, the Harvard Law Review, the University of Chicago Law School and constitutional law.
Bigdaddymonkey, R.Crockett, Joshua and Oldcowboy - educate yourselves (read Obama's info on wikipedia if nothing else) and open your minds before you decided to blog again. You are making fools of yourselves with your knee-jerk rantings and I don't think that you intend to do that.
Take a deep breath, calm yourselves and start to get over it. After eight years that would have been funny had they not been so tragic, the majority of American people (and I'll bet some of them were Republicans!) said enough is enough and voted for substance and change over a national joke and the status quo.
Change is difficult but change for the right reasons is positive and after eight long years of a national nightmare, a majority of Americans voted for positive change.
why aren't you all answering my questions. 1.) why 20 law suits? 2.) why can't we see his records? 3.) why did'nt he keep his word & take the election campaign money. He signed up for it, said he would.??? 4. Grandmother states he was born in Kenya? 5. Article today said, "Indonesia celebrates the election of THER ADOPtED SON??? 6. Why is he going to cut or military? 7. why will he disarm the nuc's? 8. why will he give us a new flag? 9. why will he give us a new national anthem? 10. Why will he split up Israel?
Please answer my questions. Does anybody know???
do.....I read you post & I know ALL that stuff. I've read that stuff on wikipedia too. Those weren't my questions. Why can't we see his records.
A new flag and a new national anthem! Where do you people get this stuff? It's really funny and actually tragic that you believe it.
But as long as the door has been opened on law suits, Ms. Palin has a few of those that she needs to resolve. And medical records - well Senator McCain sure wouldn't release his. Could the fact that he has had melanoma five times have something to do with it? Anything else we voters need to know about the senator's health?
Please, I beg of you, read the Wall Street Journal, watch the Lehrer News Hour on PBS, listen to the BBC on the radio. You really do need to get information from anywhere other than where you have been getting it. Do that, ask educated questions, and then we'll talk.
Both Sarah & John released their medical records. So what??? Obama is on a video, where he says first thing I will do is: 1. New national anthern & new flag. 2. Cut military in half, not fund military projects, not fund star wars, close half of the bases.
Is this a good time to be doing ANY of those things??? I think it will make us appear weak. do, I read everything & can get my hands on. That's why I am asking these questions of people that apparently voted for him. I've seen these video's for myself. He said these things. He has even gone on dates with Michael to burn the flag. Gosh, that is so scarey that she hates this country. And Obama say's that all the time. I'm not trying to be hateful.. I'm just asking?????
I think it's unlikely that you ever have read the Wall Street Journal or watched the Lehrer News Hours (and I'm only giving these as two examples of other sources of news for you, there are many other good sources out there).
That having been said, please tell me exactly where I can find the video(s) where, and I'm quoting you, "...he says first thing I will do is: 1. New national anthern (I think you meant to use the word "anthem") & new flag. 2. Cut military in half, not fund military projects, not fund star wars, close half of the bases."
Please also direct me to the exact video or source of information where it stated that, and I'm quoting you again, " He has even gone on dates with Michael to burn the flag." I will watch/read it as well, particularly to learn who "Michael" is. If you are thinking that you are referring to William Ayres, I'm sure that you know that Obama was about eight years old when Ayres was doing all of his flag buring.
Like I said before, educate yourself, ask educated questions, and then we'll talk.
Could we all just agree to ignore the likes of psycho R. Crockett and stick to productive conversations? He's probably been reading racist, hate mongering blog for his info. Ignore him and his type will just go away. Engage him and it just encourages him to keep posting.
Joshua Price the media did not make S. Palin look bad...
S. Palin made S. Palin look bad
Everything about that woman in inappropriate from the way she sexualized her candidacy to the way she spent vast sums of other people's money (what charity are the luggage, clothes and hewerly going to again? I know she said the stuff wasn't hers so where is it? and why is she so entitled -- and why is she the only candidate to get away with this -- not to mention the $30K+ spent on her hair and make-up? Edwards had to return $800 for haircuts...) ... to her very divisive, dangerous and downright disgusting KKK rallies to her lies about her own doings in alaska from the pipeline to nowhere to the efforts to extinguish the polar bear in favor of big oil to her expense account fraud there and to the ability to see russia from alaska being all the foregin policy experience she needs...
a post above said it best -- her greed, and grasping ambition is much larger than her talent, intelligence or competence.
Palin is a global embarrassement
Palin is a nightmare for decent Americans who really want intelligent candidates who understand the issues -- more than talking points, smears and flirting and winking at the podium and refusing to answer direct questions for no good reason other than not knowing the answer...to calling Americans Joe 6-Packs...the whole charade
Most of all tho Americans want someone who will not erode the constitution based on their ideology -- the ideology they insist the entire country WILL live according to
America has freedom at its core
Fundamentalism is at odds with freedom
Fundamentalism requires minimal education -- no deep thinking and no questions asked. It is tryannical. It is the opposite of a productive, freed, thinking, democracy.
Fundamentalism is deadening to the spirit and to the mind
And most of all it is deadening to the constitution
I do not like or respect S. Palin -- she is undereducated -- she ran on a family values platform and her family values are not worthy of consideration with the uneducated thug-like clearly ill-at-ease husband, drug addcit son and pregnant high school drop out daughter...she is grasping and inappropriate -- mean-spirited and worse
but most of all she is a fundmentalist -- a the-laws-and-mores-do-not-apply-to-me but you-are-damned-straight-doing-this-my-way-or-the-highway attitiude that only a true religious fundamentalist can manage -- I am right and the entire world is wrong
she fired anyone who says no to her....and promises to pervert and subvert my constitution to make it a vehicle to withhold rights.....what a nightmare this woman would be if she was given some actual power to abuse...
we have eva perone and saddaam rolled into one in Palin -- I'm sure he was very sexy and charming in his own way too
no -- no to S. Palin in particular and no to any more fundamentalist candidates in general
Republicans -- please clean up your party -- get a real dialouge going again -- America needs the dialouge -- get some worthy candidates -- and remember that church and state are separated for a reason!
I am a christian but I appreciate the separation of church and state -- the reason for it is the essence of freedom and democracy!
NO 6-Pack Palin -- not now and NOT EVER
Dear Mary....I don't remember inviting you into our conversation. do....is a logical person, & does research. That is why I am talking to this person. I hope you don't mind. You can learn a lot of things from some very intelligen people, if you take the time. This just isn't a place to hurl insults at each other....even though it can be fun at times.
do....I'm with you I love Jim Lehrer & business week, for me. Check out youtube. There is tons of actual video & interviews with Obama. He stated it in his book that Michael hates America. He did a recent interview & said the same thing. Said, " I have hated it too, but now that I am going to be president, I will lay my hatred aside."
Now that Obama is President Elect....I pray that they both can lay their hatred aside. He has a difficult job ahead of him. I will pray for him when he reaches offices that he will be able to fulfill his duties & make this country even greater.
I'm going to sign off. Nice talking to you. God Bless America!!!
That's just it. There are more from where he came from and they vote and they won't just go away.
RC - are you talking about Michael Moore? Never mind. If I offended in any way I'm sorry. I agree about laying hatred aside and making the USA greater as well. I can't believe that you and I agree on something! I'm signing off as well. Let's do some more research before we chat again and hurl insults. No harm, no foul. d0
R.Crocket,
You can find some answers at Factcheck.org. You can even ask them your questions. I don't understand why you are so ready to believe all the nonsense you write, but refuse to find out or believe the truth. Where do you get your ideas?
Let's pretend that you are running for a high public office. Let's see how you would feel if someone, for whatever reason, did not want you to win and started sending viral emails about you claiming that you were not really born in the U.S. but in Yeman, a Muslim country, and stating that you are a Muslim, (which really is no sin), and believing that the birth certificate you submitted as proof of your American birth was a fake. Let's pretend that your spouse is accused of hating America for making a comment that was taken out of context. Then someone starts rumors or fakes photos and video of you stating that you want to change the flag and the National Anthem! And that you have ties to terrorrists and plan to turn the U.S. into a Muslim country! What if some people thought, "OMG! It MUST BE TRUE! I read it on the inter-net somewhere, in an email sent by a trusted friend, and heard it at church!" Now you must try to prove to these people that these things are untrue. But in spite of all your repeated efforts, some people just refuse to believe you! They just keep asking, "But what about...?" And no amount of explaining can make these people see the truth. Never mind that the real answers to all these questions are everywhere. These people just seem determined to believe the lies. WHY? What more can you do?
Also, no way do I see Palin as serving the Lord and this country with a "servant's heart." But I do see her serving herself (and her family) to plenty of "heaping helpings" of expensive clothing and jewelery, not paid for by herself, but by the donations made to the McCain campaign. Money spent illegally since the RNC does not allow campaign funds to be allocated for clothing allowances. And an allowance of more than $150,000.00! Much more than the average income of most Americans! How is this serving the Lord? This is very much serving herself!! Seriously, is this what Jesus would do - spend an altogether offensive amount of other peoples money on altogether outrageously overpriced clothes for himself?!!? And how about that back stabbing? Looking out for her own political career even at the expense of her running mate? Same question: is this what Jesus would do? But, we are to believe what she says over what she does. Or maybe we should re-read the book of James, Chapters 2 and 3. Religious fanatics misinterpret the Bible all the time. I think this explains that witch doctor thing. Maybe Palin should be out shooting snakes instead of moose.
R.C., really just try to get good information. I don't know what you're so afraid of. Obama is no anti-Christ, he's simply a man. He just doesn't look like you and has had different life experiences than you. And I'm certain that you share many of the same life experiences. He's lost loved ones, works hard, and loves his family and country. Ask yourself, "What if he turns out to be one of the best presidents we've ever had?"
Crokett is obviously in the first stage of grief, Denial, usually a sign of fear and confusion like with PTSD. In order to get and classified briefing as all POTUS candidates do you have to go through security clearance. Now either you thing the CIA is bad at their job or "in the tank for Obama", which is it?
None if you haters have any legitimate points to make, you think "he is a wolf in sheeps clothing" just because you have no real reason to back up your claim that he would be a bad President. Come back in four years when there is actually a record.
The reason there are "20 law suits" is because there are at least 20 people with nothing better to offer the country and many more to cheer them on.
Suck it up, do your patriotic duty and support the president, have better hope for your country, more faith in your fellow citizens or ship out!
And stop using god to back up your agenda
As do all good republicans....when faced with facts....interject rumor and inuendo...The problem?.....inuendo is Italian for suppository....
To my knowledge...there are no more remaining law suits relative to Obama's citizenship. The judge has ruled the suit frivolous. I would also suspect that tin foil and coolaid have permiated some of the deep south...and texas cowboy country...(unfortuneately because I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan)
Here's some advice to those who would still attempt to use lies, rumor, and just plain bulls*it as gospel fact....get over it...your side lost...we have a new president who will try to repair the 8 years of damage cause by bush and his republican cronies....and if you don't like the fact that he won?.....uhhhh....tough sh*t....America!....Love it or Leave!
RCrockett:
Oh yee, of little faith!! Ms. Palin is not a true Christian or she could not have spoke all of the untruths and outright lies she did!!
If Obama is so freakin Muslim, then why did he choose a man who is of Israeli descent to be his Chief of Staff. Muslims and Jews don't get along if I recall and you can't get much more jewish than Rahm Emanual!
I think she should run. She may never win. But she has some good things to say. She should be allowed to say them. The people will have there say when they vote. But we need new faces on the political scene. Like Obama, Palin. The people will choose.
Have you looked into why over 80% of the people of Alaska approve of her job as their governor? Could it be her innate ability to adjust and make correct decisions? Might be worth looking into and thinking about.
Yes I have looked into her 80% approval rating, 1st of all it's 60% and dropping and she gives everyone up there a $1200 bonus check. From taxing oil that we pay for (That wealth spreading socialist!) She gives these people money and bought them a hockey rink. Of course they will aprove of her. She's buying their support.
You deserve Obama.........wait till he raises your gasoline, cigarett, and tobacco taxes because Bush refused to do so! Don't think you're the ones going to have your taxes raises.
You listen too much to the Democratically biased media and not enough to the candidate. Of course, you know that Obama's speeches were darned near word for word ones that Hilter gave!
that's a horrible thing to say about anybody. i am assuming that you are an obama fan, (go figure). the only thing i can say is you sound like a miserable person.
We will see what the great one will do, and then decide if in years we want change.
I have news for you, Palin does not give $1200.00 checks out because of the oil. State law has been doing that for much longer than she has been in office. Check your facts before you shoot your mouth off.
As a woman, I was totally embarrassed and very angry when Palin was selected as McCain's vp. Her first speech introducing herself to the nation and world was horrid. She came across as a sarcastic, insulting, offensive witch. Wouldn't someone who is a complete unknown begin amiably then ramp it up during the campaign? I think McCain's idiot campaign managers are partly responsible for this.
Secondly, the fact that she could be an alternate for Hillary was complete nonsense. You cannot simply substitute one woman for another; the experience, knowledge, ability to speak well constructed sentences at a normal rate and tone, appearance and stature, et. al. has great meaning and significance. We do not need "folksy" and cute; we need readiness and ability. I was very put off by her winking during the VP debate and her lack of knowledge and experience to draw upon when she had an opportunity to respond to Biden's remarks. Her answers were all planned and memorized.
Thirdly, I raised my 4 daughters - now ages 19 to 26 (all went/are in college not that college is the only souce of education) - instilling in them the importance of a good education and being well spoken, and that these are needed to succeed or be taken seriously in any job/career. They acknowledged mom was right and that Sara Palin is an example of a woman unprepared and uninformed.
Fourthly, I have very little respect for Palin since she constantly gave her speeches repeating lies; lies that were proven to be lies over and over again. She showed no qualms at doing this or any remorse. I could never vote for someone like that. Yes, in campaigns there are falsehoods and exaggerations, but this was different. She just outright lied and seemed gleeful in doing so.
Lastly, I was concerned for her children. Having 4 of my own, I know how difficult it was (and still is) to handle everything that needed to be handled when they were young from school to friends to outside activities. Being a hands on mom and just working part time is/was difficult enough. I felt sorry for moms who had to work full time. But in Palin's case with being governor and then thinking of being vp for the nation - how does a mom manage? It is easy for Palin to bring her baby into work - her office; but a mom working at Walmart or a doctor's office or a school cannot do that. It's fine if Todd, her husband, is a stay at home dad, but it appears he's involved (too involved) in Palin's job and at the office, too. So who's minding the kids?
I have nothing against any woman who is ambitious and wants to "make it" in politics, business, or any other tough field. But don't paint yourself as a typical mom because one can't be. Sacrifices are made; games, birthdays, and school affairs are missed; one can't be two places at once and everything to everybody.
I think Palin got what she deserved in the media, too. When you put yourself out in public, expect to be scrutinized (as anybody should expect nowadays ) just like Clinton, Obama, Romney, and Joe the plumber were . When you put yourself out in public, be prepared to have the media jump on every little detail of your life. She hurt herself with "Troopergate." Yes, I'll cooperate then no, I won't. Circumventing government business using outside e-mails wasn't very smart. Allowing her husband, "a civilian," to roam the halls of government acting with unearned authority isn't very bright either. Get a life, Todd! Can't name a magazine or newspaper you read? Then the campaign says that's a "gotcha" question? Please.
The conservative base didn't help either. If Chelsea Clinton was pregnant, the right wing nut jobs would happily be calling the Clintons horrible parents and Chelsea the result of a liberal upbringing. But in Palin's daughter's case, her out of wedlock pregnancy is okay because the daughter is going to marry the father - who quit high school! Great job at making sure you can be a good provider for your soon to be family, Levi!!!
Obviously the people who vote most on this site are Liberals. Most of whom have no idea of what O Bama has accomplished (Nothing!) or the devastaion he will bring to this country. It is what it is however and we will have to live with him for the next 4 years. I hope you dems enjoy what is comming your way. Maybe in 2012 you can answer RR's question. Are you better now than you were 4 years ago?
What is really funny is you Dems won the election and reading your comments you are still vindictive & hatefull??????
You must be some of the dumbest most unhappy people on the planet.
Good luck to you all.........
Just Observing..
Obviously the people who vote most on this site are Liberals. Most of whom have no idea of what O Bama has accomplished (Nothing!) or the devastaion he will bring to this country. It is what it is however and we will have to live with him for the next 4 years. I hope you dems enjoy what is comming your way. Maybe in 2012 you can answer RR's question. Are you better now than you were 4 years ago?
What is really funny is you Dems won the election and reading your comments you are still vindictive & hatefull??????
You must be some of the dumbest most unhappy people on the planet.
She should, should she decide to run again. There are those that think as I do.
Yes Jim, but most of the people that think she should run are Dems, because they know (as do most GOP) that it would be giving President Obama a free 2nd term (don't know yet if that will be bad or good, have to see what he will do with his 1st). If that is what you want by all means, get her to run again.
Where are those that think as you do?? I have nothing against the lady except she is NOT informed on too many issues. She would need coaching for the next four years by someone "in the know". She "excites" some, but evidently helped Mr. McCain lose the election - that is not a bad thing either. The people of this country have spoken and voted in large numbers. This poll shows you are truly in the minority, but then again - that is your right.
There are also those who believe OJ is innocent, Paris is interesting and Obama is a terrorist.
Doesn't make it true. Just tells us who's judgement to avoid.
To kittykitty....you say she is not informed??? Ha Ha Well at least she knows how many states that are in the United States. Obama said: He'd visited 57 states, & still need to go to Hawaii & Alaksa." Talk about a keyan muslim. Hasn't been in this country long enough to even know how many states we have. He'll never be able to balance the budget if he's trying to multiply by 59 states. Ha Ha Ha Ha
Crockett....Did you get a headache the day your mind snapped shut? Maybe, with all your supposed reading, you should check out all your myths with which shows that each one of those assumptions about President Obama have been diffused and proven to be fabricated falsehoods. The people have spoken and we chose the sincerity and presidential qualities of President Obama. Grow up, stop spreading hate, and deal with it. This man deserves our respect and the chance to improve our state of affairs. You are a sad representation of yourself. Such anger should be addressed with some therapy. Again, the country has spoken in his behalf, in spite of the hate sent out by people like yourself!!
Lynniloops....I hope as you say....they are all fabricated. But have you read his book? Have you seen the interviews? Just wondering. No hate as you state. Just wondering what the publice thought?
R.Crockett- I'm sorry but I'm not buying the I'm justing asking ploy that you're floating here. There are a tremendous amount of fact checked, reliable, solid, accurate and true sources across all forms of media for genuine information on our President Elect Obama. I seriously doubt that you have really sought to have your questions answered from ANY factual sources. Rush, Fox News, YouTube, 527's, GOP gossip mongers with political not ethical agendas don't count as sole sources for information disguised as facts. Should you really desire to become better informed on Barack Obama, his family, his religion (which absolutely should not matter - remember separation of church and state?), his affiliations, his agenda, then please seek out sources offering journalistic integrity and solid research not just social, religious, and monetary agendas.
I fear that once the new First Family selects a puppy, you will find a source that ascribes some dark purpose behind their choice and that you will absolutely believe it.
Let's all decide, as a group, to ignore R.Crockett. He reads only lies, refuses to accept the many, many factual accounts that refute those lies, and then spouts those lies as often as he can.
He says that he will pray for Obama. I will be glad when he does. That would be a Christian act. Perhaps an uncommonly Christian act for a person who is unable to keep the ninth commandment: Thou shalt not bear false witness.
I endeavor to do as Christ did: to pray for the fallen and the foolish, the greedy and the cruel. R.Crockett, I am praying that the scales will fall from your eyes and you will see the errors of your ways.
R. Crockett: Were you in my shoes, and seeing your behavior from the eyes of someone who has been forgiven, you would say that only Satan could turn a man as far from the truth as you have turned. I may not be so quick to assign responsibility for your cruel and unfounded lies to another, even a dark angel. At the end of days, the Lord will hold you responsible for your repeated sins, for your hard heart. For our part, we are required to leave judgement to the Lord.
May Christ open your heart to the truth and allow you to free yourself of the burden of anger and hatred that you have saddled yourself with.
For the rest of us: it is time to leave this poor fool to his own delusions and say silent prayers for his soul.
Oy - The haters are still out in force today!
And hardyhar - agreed - won't it be funny when they start questioning the symbolism of the puppy!!!
rcrocket....I'll ask you the same question....Have you read his book?....I will give you this...Obama made a misstatement relative to 59 states...however....if you bothered to watch the whole interview...instead of the shun handily, flush limbdoughboy, and fox's cut down edited snipit....you'd have seen a very tired candidate...who probably should have not done the interview in the first place....surely you can't believe that a Harvard Law graduate doesn't know there are 50 states?...and it was merely a lapse caused by fatigue....if we're going to debate here....let's debate substance....
Hey Crockett where is Keyan located and what type of muslims are Keyanites lol
R Crockett - Can you provide a link to where Obama said there were 59 states? I would really like to see this. And I want it to be a real legit video too, not something on Youtube that was altered to make it look like he said something he didn't.
He made a mis speak, he actually said it was 57 states. It was either during the town hall debate or immediately after. But, I remembering think that are going to nail him for that and sure enough dumb, dumb Palin brought it out at one of her rallies.
But the funniest of lines came from John McCain. When he rushed his word and said:
TO ALL MY FELLOW PRISONERS
Not until she passes a 5th grade geography test!
Are you Smarter than a 5th Grader? Are you smarter than a 5th grader? Foxworthy would have a field day with her!
Maybe she'd agree to it as a campaign fundraiser. Pay per view game show appearance! I know I'd pay to see that!
hmmmm... as apposed to Obama saying 57 states??? But SHE'S the idiot? What double standards we have
No, if the Repubicans let her run in 2012 it shows that they are more interested in divisive politics than in compentent running of this country. We can not afford to return to far right and theocratic politics when we have shown the world with this election the true America.
Go Obama!
The so-called "real America" that is being shown to the world is nothing like what our founding fathers intended for this once great nation. I will respect the authority of our President, simply because he is the president; however, I do believe that our country has made the biggest mistake in history by electing the most liberal person ever to be involved in American government. If people think that he will be able to unite the parties when his record shows everything to the contrary, they are sadly mistaken.
Ms Palin claims to represent "the real America"...is that the one which most closely resembles her home "riding"..Alaska, with 70% of the population being white and 3% of the poulation being black?
It's interesting to me that men seem to favor her more than women. Now if a very handsome man with NO brains ran and all the women were swooning, wouldn't the men feel like it was a slap in the face?? Well, what to h... to you think your wife, mother, sister or daughter thinks when you guys think she's such a great choice. For what??? Don't answer that! She is an insult to intelligent women everywhere. She ran with the looks thing, and I don't think she got the big prize then either.
From Newsweek's "Secrets of the Campaign" series on their website:
"At the GOP convention in St. Paul, Palin was completely unfazed by the boys' club fraternity she had just joined. One night, Steve Schmidt and Mark Salter went to her hotel room to brief her. After a minute, Palin sailed into the room wearing nothing but a towel, with another on her wet hair. She told them to chat with her laconic husband, Todd. "I'll be just a minute," she said."
Classy.
I would have to agree with that. She is "sort" of pretty but then she opens her mouth!!
Palin, wasn't and will never be prepared for presidency of the U.S. She's more like Bush, and McCain, she didn't pay attention in school and it shows loudly. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. I particulary didn't like the controversy campaign that McCain/Palin ran, incitement to riot dividing Americans even more. Not being open minded, never talked about the issues. Being a Big Female Bully just isn't the way too go in my view.
I've been called a very handsome man by many....and Sarah Palin is the last women I'd be interested in. Not only is she a loose cannon, she's bordering on lunacy...I don't find her, her mind, or her family attractive...well...maybe they are to some...but not me...I'd want a woman who could name a newspaper she read...just 1 is all I'd ask for...I'd also want someone who would not try to convince me that because she can "see Russia"...(but I'll just bet she can't) from her house...how that makes her experienced in foreign affairs....hell I can see the moon from my house...does that make me an astronaut?...I think not....and so ladies and gentlemen of the jury...I rest my case....
whoknew: I certainly think you could qualify as an astronaut, especially in view of the fact you can see the moon from your house!! That makes you as qualified as most politicians no matter which party they belong to!!!
I wouldn't have voted for her to be dog-catcher, I wouldn't date her, and once she opened her mouth to speak I'd be running as fast and as far as my legs could take me away from her. I prefer women who know that Africa's a continent, who understand that the Vice President is not "in charge of" the Senate and why, and who would have the sense to learn about one or two Supreme Court rulings before presuming to seek the second highest office in the land.
whoknew-
Just had to tell you I lost it when I read that "I can see the moon from my house" line. Thanks for that!
Exactimundo! I and all the females in my family were highly insulted by the choice made by McCain. His strategy was to pull some Hillary votes while solidifying the party's base: the extreme rightwing religious fanatics. Sarah certainly had her groupies, though; mostly uneducated trailer-trash types from what I couyld discern.
Carol, you do have a point....that is why all the women voted for Clinton. And look at the mess he got us in. Sarah is a good Christian woman. And I know the Lord would be with her. And she is for gun rights. That's why the men LOVE her. Men go crazy over a woman that can hold her own & is not afraid of guns. Why do you think she goes out and practices with the National Guard. They guard all our sorry rear ends. Yeah! Remember those Nuc's up there in Alaska. She has the highest security clearance that all the recent canidates. She was the only one that flew to Homeland Security for breifings. So, thank the Lord every night, that you've got someone up in Alaska, that lay's their live on the line for you.
Are you people serious? Do you read the National Enquirer too? These accusations were made by people that refused to show their faces or say their names. Give the woman a break. I don't want her to run again only because I have never, ever seen the media try to slaughter someone so badly. They of course did a good job from all of your rude, posts. For the sake of her family, I hope she doesn't run again. The Facts are that she has been an excellent Governor for Alaska. I think the media's coverage of the election and Palin has been shameful and embarassing. The media (at least when I was a student) is supposed to be fair and unbiased. The way in which they favored and unshamefully promoted Obama was embarassing. Thank you all for proving that they can get away with it and Americans want to be spoon fed the agenda the media has for them. Sara Palin's career in National Politics may be over but keep an eye out for Bobby Jindal( Lousiniana's current Governor) he will fill in her space very nicely. I hope you all get what you want out of the election, you can look to the Government to be your daddy. Don't look at me when your "dad" starts taking away your rights...
The ironic thing is that she never made that comment about seeing Russia from her house. Tina Fey did. And yet everyone swears they heard her say it! There's this thing called implanted memory . . .
R.Crocket...a "good Christian woman" would not participate in a smear campaign against an opponent. A "good Christian woman" would not tell lies to get ahead in the race. A "good Christian woman" would not shoot animals just for the thrill/"sport". A "good Christian woman" would not be led into the temptation of power (-a v.p. who thinks she would have control over the Senate), fame (she actually expected to speak at McCain's concession speech!) and money (i.e. the new wardrobes, hair & makeovers, etc.). Perhaps she goes and practices w/ the Nat'l Guard simply because, as you say, "men go crazy over a woman who is not afraid of guns." But that, Crocket, is her ego, not the ability to "hold her own."
Also, I do "thank the Lord every night," but not for Sarah Palin. The past few days I have been thanking God that finally...FINALLY...we are getting someone in office who is hopeful, not fearful. Someone who is confident, not egotistical. Someone who embraces change, not one who resists it. Someone who instills faith and hope all over the world...not just here in the USA. Someone who demonstrates strength, diplomacy, humility, unconditional love and forgiveness. Someone who truly seems to walk in Christ-consciousness. Someone who made WORLD history on Nov. 4, 2008. For that we should all THANK THE LORD!!!!
P.S. Are you a distant relative of Davey??
wendy....sarah palin used an analogy about russia when trying to explain how she has foreign affairs experience....remember?....putin raises his head and fly's over US air space?....for the love of God...putin raises his head?...yeah...I'd want that negotiating over a nuclear arms proliferation deal....
And to all you other posters who continue to write "she's a good christian woman"....fine...let her teach sunday school....not run for vp...or God forbid president...
Wendy, I'm afraid you're wrong about that. Tina Fey was spoofing and actual statement, which Katie Couric asked Palin about in her interview. It's not an implanted memory. It's in videos all over the internet, the actual Palin and the actual words. Couric asked for further explanation of Palin's "foreign policy expertise," and Palin only made it worse. It would have been better for her if she had stopped with "we can see Russia from Alaska".
Why are we rehashing this? Only because you posted a lie to make things look like something they're not. Please stop doing that. We were all there, and all awake. It happened. Move on.
"Lousiniana's current Governor"???? Congratulations! You are as smart as Sarah Palin!
I hope we can move on ---and not talk about Palin anymore I am so glad she is back where she belongs
I am say yes, she will run for the President of the USA, and she will win... you mark my words...
This time we made history of different kind.. We will never hear black people plead ... or cry ROOTS again.. the slavery days are over.. you got your wish... now get back to WORK... thee will never be this excuse.. that I am black.. that's why I am in jail... or that I am black so that's why you don't give me the job... I think this will be more favored for the white people.. because we been feeling guilty about the slavery years that our forth fathers caused... and now.. it's over.. we are all equal...
But This election showed that when it comes to women ... we still have a way to go.. Like 4 more years to go.. we are not there yet... so our fight is just began..
I can't believe that people would rather pick a Black man as a President than a white woman President.. go figure... so I can see.... we have come a long way baby... Ok...
Did you know people that the black man was able to vote before us women, could cast a vote? really...
I think we will have our day.. and we will elect Sarah Palin, to even the score...
Look we women, it dosen't matter what color we are.. we need to unite together for the next election... so that the 2012 year will be the WOMAN's year...
Obama made history this year, 2008... you know... good for the all men color, or non color...
But we are coming soon.. we are women... hear us ROAR... we won't take it anymore..
All the abuse, from men... the neglect.. the torment.. that men put on us... the rapes.. of our young children...
Stand up you MOTHERS of all Battles.. and UNITE and Fight...
We need to start now...
I agree we need a woman president. But seriously, this woman? With 3 dropouts in the family, not knowing that Africa is a continent and not a country, using fear and hate to rile up her supporters? Is that really who you want the first woman president to be?
I am a woman and I will vote for a woman president when there is a woman running that I can believe in. Sarah Palin is not that woman...
Obama was picked for substance. A woman will have her day, mark my words - but a woman that has proven herself like Obama has.
And racism isn't over yet, not by a long shot. If we've learned anything over the course of this election, that is the lesson. It just means that the majority of the country has managed to get past racism.
Let them celebrate and be proud of them! Celebrate with them, celebrate their great milestone! It's a great day in history. When a woman becomes president, you can bet that women of all colours and faiths will be celebrating - and hopefully, men too.
Please...you are showing your utter stupidity by attaching yourself to that empty-headed Palin JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN!! Hillary's 100 times as polished and intelligent as that fool! She's forgotten more than that airhead Palin could ever hope to know!!
Really Marysia is that necessary?? US women do not nor have ever had it as hard as Black people have especially in this still rather racist country so dont tell me ohh boohoo we need a woman in office! Us women are the first ones crying foul if someone say doesnt open a door for us or were to steal a cab from us on a freezing cold day and silly stuff as such! I know I am a female who has had it pretty good in life just because of my looks and gender! Drinks bought, jumping ahead in lines etc...the only tough thing I have ever had to endure is having children-poor me!
There are lots of women of power who are doing good and soon the right qualified one will certainly be President but it is not nor will ever be Sarah Palin- Barack Obama can do laps around her in the intelligence department! Get a grip and get over the fact that a "Black" person is President, his character qualifies him far over his color and its a lot better than her character....
Obama has proven himself--how? Has he yet to devulge his policies or what change he's going to bring? Outside of the tax rhetoric, what has he said?
I am impressed how you prove your argument that racism is far from over by saying that "the majority of the country has managed to get past racism." What you've actually said is that he was elected because he's black, not because he's the best man-bravo! Finally a liberal who tells the truth-this is a red letter day indeed! No, if anything this will deepen the divide-mark my words. When <15% of the population gets 85+% of the benefit, what do you think will happen?
I don't feel Palin is ready to be President now, but with some more experience, I feel she can be a formidable woman.
November 4, 2008 will go down in history as this country's darkest hour--the day the USA died because its people have stated we want socialism, we want no personal responsibility for anything and we want Government for, by & of the people to do all. Socialism is on our door step--I hope we like it and get what we deserve.
By the way, Northern..., do you like paying 23+% VAT Tax because of your social welfare programs?
Marysia,
Bless your heart, I know 3rd grade was hard but maybe a refresher course in grammar would help you get your point across. You might even learn how incredibly wrong you are about the moose killer, Sara Palin.
Marysia, from one woman to another...
Voting for a candidate just because she happens to share plumbing with me is about as bright as voting for a candidate just because he happens to share skin color with me. You want to see a woman President? Wonderful, that's great... but how 'bout we select a female candidate that can do the job? Palin is, in the eyes of a number of respected folks who know about that kind of thing, INCLUDING several prominent Republicans, NOT qualified, and worse, she didn't KNOW she wasn't qualified.
If you want to take gender into account when you vote, fine, that is, of course, your right. Heck, you can choose a candidate based on whether he or she owns cats or dogs. However unless you look at the issues that candidate represents, that candidate's stance on issues relating to her gender, and that candidate's integrity, then you're doing a disservice to your gender.
Me, I'd rather never see a female President than see a female President who does it WRONG... And Palin's activities while on the campaign trail assured me that she'd do it wrong.
It's obvious you're passionate about the issue, but please, try to think clearly, and channel that passion to a candidate more worthy of your emotion.
Rainkiss--beautifully stated!! I still think with experience someday she could do it.
Thank you for a well contemplated thought.
ignore the color of Obama's skin and the gender of Palin for a moment...He's obviously much more knowledgable on a wide range of issues than she is. I think there are plenty of people who would welcome a qualified female pres--Palin is just far from it1
Thank you, LBG, I appreciate the kind words. I doubt she could do the job, at this point. She may, with a lot of time, experience, and re-education become CAPABLE of doing the job, but this campaign has likely made her unelectable for pretty much any major federal office. Her gaffes from this campaign are enshrined forever on the internet, and will be dragged out for airing during any future campaign. (Heck, I lost count of how many videos of McCain from the 2000 campaign I saw through links and research.) There's only so many of them a campaign can withstand, and only so many times she'd be able to say, "Yes, that was a stupid thing to say, I know better now."
Maryisa, You've had some history here. But some of us don't think just ANY woman is better than no woman. I looked for brains and how the person performed in a crisis. Obama and Biden won hands down.
Ummm Marysia...You have some serious issues. There is help for people such as yourself. "Im black that's why I'm in jail". Come on Marysia...There are Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, Asians, men and women in jail. Obama was elected to be president by all walks of life, not just by African Americans. Republicans voted for him, Whites, Hispanics, Asians. Yes, one day a woman will be president, but select a woman who can without a doubt take this country to new heights. Sarah Palin can NOT by no means accomplish that. Did you watch the Katie Couric interview? Yes I am proud Obama was elected, but I am even prouder because he is for All Americans not just African Americans. It's time to grow up and move on Marysia.
marysia....uhhh...surely you jest?...no..and I repeat no woman of intelligence would side with you on this....only partisanship and racism is seen in your post....I am woman hear me roar?....OMFG...you have to be kidding....Palin doesn't know that one...she knows I am woman watch me shop.....watch me support cessation of Alaska from the US...lets play pin the name on the country...uhhh what?....Africa is a continent?...you mean it's not a country?....oh...never mind....lol please....
Here's some very sound advice before you make your next post....take a deep breath....remove the tin foil from around your head...and forget about making that post...
The office of President of the United States should belong to the most qualified and competent individual -- without regard to race or gender. In this election, Barak Obama demonstrated that he best met both criteria. Sarah Palin showed herself to meet neither. I am a 59 year old woman who would love to see a woman president during my lifetime -- but not one of Sarah Palin's ilk. Bring me a woman candidate who is smart, articulate, has good judgment and shares my positions on fundamental issues like war, the economy, education, health care, and women's rights, and she will get my vote. Another caricature candidate like Palin, even if a woman, will not.
I will absolutely vote for an EDUCATED, QUALIFIED woman. That isn't Sarah Palin. I am 50+, hold a PhD and am insulted that we are expected to vote, based only on gender, for the ultimate unqualified cartoon candidate. Was that the set up for a joke?????
We all will decide on our own - but since knowledge is power, I am passing this along...
A question of perspective :
Obama/Biden v.s. McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?... think about it. Would the country's collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit?
Ponder the following:
·What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including a three-month-old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
·What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
·What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
·What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?
·What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?
·What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?
·What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to painkillers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
·What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
·What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
·What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
·What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?
·What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashi ng seven planes?
·What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?
·What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution?
·What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
·You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are? This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
Educational Background:
·Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna *** Laude
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
VS.
·John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.
Marysia- you know hormone therapy and counseling can be a good thing. Perhaps, you should try it? I am seriously worried about you........
The election of Palin to any office would set women and America back decades.
You and Palin are the type of women that give women a bad name. You should never vote for a woman simply because she is a woman. You are showing your stupidity. The Republicans were banking on people like you for votes, that is why they shoved Palin into a position she wasn't qualified for. We will get our chance, but there is no way I would EVER vote for a woman like Palin.
Marysia, you are one scary woman. You would foist Sarah Palin on this country out of some misguided sense of revenge? As some sort of punishment for not having elected a woman? So to get even you give us the worst possible female candidate you could come up with? Where is the Bwahhahha that goes with this nefarious plot? I have to disagree that it we need a woman president. What we need is a president who is intelligent, competent, and who has the interest of the United States as the number one priority. It doesn't matter to me what sex that person is. If it is a woman who best fills that criteria in a given election, then she should be elected. Not because she is a woman, but because she is the most qualified. I could readily embrace the candidacy of a woman who I felt was qualified. But to consider running Sarah Palin, who has demonstrated that she is not even qualified to teach third grade much less run the country, is insulting to the voters of this country. You can't run a candidate as a punishment or a way to get even. What a demented idea. Why don't you run, you couldn't be any less qualified than Sarah. But first, what is the capital of Florida? Just checking.
To quote Joe Biden, "Is this a joke?"
This woman didn't know that Africa is a continent. She didn't know which countries are parties to NAFTA. Maybe it would have hekped if they broke it down for her. NAFTA = North American Free Trade Agreement, the countries of North America are.....? Aw heck, just tell her!
And she's corrupt too. Yeah, great candidate!
Horowitz....you of all people should Love Sarah. Sarah would protect Israel with every ounce of her being. Do you honestly think that Obama the Muslim will do that for you??? He told them one thing to their face then off camera again the microphone picked it up, " I will bust them up."
R. Crockett:
You sound just like your leader! Dumb as rocks.....and LOST!
Haha.....Loser....
ObamDiva, Do you really have anything educated to say? No mamm, I'm not lost. Jesus is my Lord & savior. I thank the Lord everyday that I live in a free country where I can worship Him. I dare you make fun of the state of Israel,,,,where Jesus came from, & ultimately will return to.
R.Crockett,
You assumed that Mr. Horowitz is a supporter of Isreal. Perhaps it is because his surname is common in the jewish community? Realize, however, that leaping to the conclusion that his surname == his politics is both foolish (what Republican hasn't courted the Jewish vote recently) and prejudiced (you 'pre-judged' him on the basis of his name... good thing his skin color wasn't visible online!)
Barak Obama and Joe Biden are strong supporters of Isreal and a two-state solution. They stand by our allies, unlike John McCain who doesn't know the difference between a Sunni and a She'ite, and who drove America to war AGAINST ISREAL'S WISHES.
Remember this: Isreal is in more jeopardy now, because of the turmoil of Iraq, and the strengthening of Iran by G. Bush, than they were under Clinton. Bush / McCain was very bad for Isreal. I'm glad that Barak is there to begin to clean up their mess.
R.Crockett,
Dude you are in need of some serious mental health. Try the Yellow Pages. HURRY
Once again - I repeat: Obama's Chief of Staff is Rahm Emanuel, a jew who's own father was born in Jerusalem. Would a Muslim president make this choice? I think not. Explain this decision that Obama made please R. Crockett? Or do you think it's some sort of conspiracy????
Never!!!!! No one will ever forget this bimbo!!! Don't need religious fanatics
anywhere in our government. Maybe she'd make a good "community organizer"....
they seem to "trump" a Gov.
She is good at serving herself, not the public. In anything else she's the most incompetent women I've ever seen. There's so many stupid things she's done that she doesn't even know she has done. She's gotten by on her looks & the extremely vixation that she's entitled to any thing she wants. And she'll knife anyone who gets in her way. The clothes are the greatest example. Six outfits & hair salon, instead she spends $170,000 to $190,000 on not only her but her whole family. And I'll bet she keeps the clothes. And expecting to give a speech in front of McCain's final speech, which was a jem, just shows how much she thinks of herself & how much she's entitled to. Vice-Pres candidates just don't do that!
Dear Carboy, I'm pretty knowledgable about bullet proof vests. Those clothes she wore had split backs. She had to have something to fit over the vests & sorta hide it that she was wearing one. She knows a lot about these sort of things too, especially since she is the Commander & Chief of the National Guard unit that is guarding the Nuc.'s in her state. She has the highest security clearance of all the Gov.'s & senators....the next highest would be the VP & then President. She frequently fies to Homeland Security to be filled in on terrorism. I love how she joins in with the guard unit & learns about all the weapons. She is top's in my book!!!
OMG rcrockett....you're kidding right....she bought the clothes...then had them altered to fit over her "bullet proof vest"?....
Please...step away from the computer and remove the tin foil from your head....
OK. The dayroom is closed now. Come on, all patients, back to your rooms.
The Anti-bush sentiment led to the Democrats win, no other reason. Any republican/VP ticket would have lost, no chance whatsoever.....Mccain was not Bush, we needed to vote for the candidate, not just because we don't like our current president.....We have 4 years to see if Obama brings it on and does what he says, otherwise, we are smart enough to vote for someone else who will do the job well. We have to give it time....Gender, race, education level, should not be a factor. If Palin got in, it would have been good for women, and Barack won, so it was good for African Americans. History would have been made either way. The youth vote backed Obama, they couldn't relate to McCain......
Mmmmmmm, no. I was going to vote for McCain until they trotted out Palin. McCain was already saddled with Bush and then the nut job jumped on his back.
geen
Education level should be a huge factor for this particular office. Being president of the US requires serious cognitive training and the ability to systematically solve emense problems, organize and manage diverse groups of people and engage multicultural leaders from around the globe. This person should be well versed in the classics as well as an expert on the contsitution, legal system, financial system, micro and macro economics, geopraphy as well as knowing political and world history. And it wouldn't hurt if they had the sense of accomplishment and connection only achieved through successful completion of an organized and accredited education... for starters. POTUS is not a job for the common man or woman, it's for the exceptional.
Also, the American people didn't vote against Senator McCain they voted for Senator Obama. There's a big difference.
we DIDvoted for the candidate....we didn't vote for mcbush because he would have given us 4 more years of the same failed bush policies....and while there may have been some anti-bush sentiment....(uhhh who am I kidding....I hated the bastard) I voted for change.....not a gimmick vp pick.....guess what....Barack got in...it's not only good for African Americans...it's good for all Americans except those who refuse to accept the fact that he will be our president...
If education is not an important factor in selecting president and vice-presidents as our leaders- then God help us!
She is evidently a back-stabber and too ambitous for her own good - but especially for a free nation. This type of person is dangerous. It has already led her to repeatedly abuse power, and those who abuse power are only interested in what is in their own best interest. No one elses opinion or rights count. This is always dangerous to a democracy.
Her ignorance is dangerous too. The best that can be said about it is that she is a terrible embarrassment to the United States. Let me repeat: she is a TERRIBLE EMBARRASSMENT to the United States. Let's put this embarrassment behind us and move on! Quickly! And let us never forget!
She is evidently a back-stabber and too ambitous for her own good
Remember who back-stabbed Hillary?
Sarah Palin did the right thing and was to ignite the torch for her in 2012.
NO! She's a sick, damaged individual who lacks the insight, intelligence and worldly experience to even run Alaska, let alone the U.S. ! Why do politicians always gear their campaigns to pander to the lowest common denominator? Seriously, out of 300,000,000 people, is there nobody more qualified? As a lifelong republican, I always resented how my party was highjacet by the religeous WRONG. I voted for Bush in 2000, could not bring myself to vote in 2004 and leaned towards McCain this time. After choosing Palin, I realised that even HE wasn't fit to lead, and I will NEVER forgive him for introducing that mean spirited, odeos woman to National attention. The fact that anyone even considered that woman and that ticket as "viable" only confirmed my fears, The republican party is no longer my party.
Harry K, You said it! Thankfully enough Americans are smarter than the republican campaign thinks.
Harry K, I suggest that before you criticize Palin's intelligence you learn how to spell "highjacked," "religious," and "odious." And perhaps review the rules of capitalization as well. Yet another example of liberal hypocrisy. Were you running for VP, your spelling and grammar would have been enough to vilify you in the liberal media! Let's also talk about the "religeous [sic] WRONG." This reminds me so much of the liberal's bastardization of the famous Henry Ford quote: "Anyone can have any opinion he wants, as long as it's mine." Go ahead and join the liberals, and good riddance- your hypocrisy makes you one of them.
Hey Wendy,
"Highjacked" is actually spelled "Hijacked"
;)
good job.
Wendy
Perhaps you could "review the rules of capitalization" with all of us...
This is a political discussion board, not a high school English test.
You seem to be missing the point that Harry K is not running for the highest office in the land, and his intelligence is not in question. Governor Palin put herself out there for further scrutiny, and is herself suggesting that she could someday be President of the US. That is the question at hand. Being abusive and applying labels to folks because they don't agree with your very simple point of view does not advance the debate. Oversimplifying things and knit-picking may make the argument easier for you to grasp, but it shows you to be foolish. All of us can use the spellchecker if we care to, but that's not the point. The guy said he was a lifelong Republican yet you call him a "liberal" because he doesn't vote for Sarah Palin, you must be a Fascist or a Pentecostal wing-nut. How does that feel? Pretty Strong argument you've got there- "You're a liberal, he's a liberal, she's a liberal, there all liberals, the media's liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, liberal, the whole world's liberal. And hypocrites too I guess." Wendy your not a Republican, you're confused.
Thanks Bill Dance. Everytime the "Right" can't have their way about something, they start throwing the word "liberal" around like they are stepping in dog pooh, and like being conservative is superior to/better than being liberal in ones ideas/thought processes. I'm tired of devisive politics and want the religious people to practice their religion outside of our government/public entities that are supported by our/citizens of the USA taxes. I am a centrist/left leaning. If that is a bad thing then I make no apologies to anyone. I want progress because nothing is permanent but change. Go away Palin even the repubs know better than you!
Should Palin run for President?? You've GOT to be kidding!! She's the biggest JOKE who ever ran for politcal office! I can't even believe the birdbrains in Alaska could vote her in as governor. She's a total GOOF and a total embarrassment to the Republicans!! With her on the ticket McCain would never have gotten my vote!
Not that I would ever want her to win, but hey, if she wants to run, why not? Maybe she'll do a bit of studying over the next four years.
Besides, she'd have to get past the other Republican hopefuls first... And I think they've learned that it's okay for a candidate to have more than the average amount of intelligence; it's okay to be elite. You know... If the president wasn't 'elite', that person really didn't have any business running a country?
And of course... easy win for Obama if she is the candidate and hasn't learned her lessons. :)
I just can't resist: Obama/Biden '08!
When Obama's true colors and motives finally emerge from this "Mystery Man," I doubt very much he'll still be here in '12.
I see impeachment in his future.
I feel he's a "wolf in sheeps clothing" and, for the country's sake, I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me he's a liar. I feel that very shortly about 63 million people are going to be saying "What have I done??" when this man's ulterior motives come out.
LBG..."I feel he's a "wolf in sheeps clothing" and, for the country's sake, I sincerely hope I'm wrong"
YOU ARE WRONG....why can't you just see that he's a great man and just b/c you don't agree with him on his policies will you and all the other conspiracy theorists stop looking for something that is NOT THERE. He will prove you wrong. Very smart and inteligent REPs and CONs are backing this man. Do you know something they don't? I highly doubt it. Let's come together and FOR ONCE get some things accomplished instead of trying to tear someone apart. This attitude is very destructive....stop putting this crap out there and get over it.
LBG...you mean like how just about every sane person in America came to their senses in 2008 and said...what the hell was I thinking with bush?....every American has sat by helpless as this idiot in the whitehouse got us into 2 wars....trampled on the constitution, made millions of $ for his friends....laughed all the way to the bank...then dug a grave so deep that it will take a miracle from God to get us out?...is that what you mean LBG?....please...the only wolves were the republicans....next case....
Karen...--I hope I am wrong. I would love to agree or disagree with his policies-its just that NO ONE knows his policies. The attitude that elected him is the destructive attitude, not mine.
Who...--you mean the 2 MINOR wars?? How about the 4 MAJOR wars of the 20th century the Dems got us into (WWI, WWII, Korea & Vietnam) where 100's of thousands of American soldiers died-did you forget those?? And what-no Dem has ever "trampled the Constitution, made millions...,etc.?" Give me a break!!
No, it's people like you 2, blindsided by an articulate, well-spoken snake oil salesman, that has gotten us into trouble. Karen, what do I know that they don't? That he's full of S__t-that's what. Just what-you'll see!
LBG since you (and it seems others) don't know anything about him, and obviously haven't taken the time to read or learn anything about him (plenty of factual information out there) here is a quick primer for you:
10 years of senate experience (8 state senate 2 federal) with much aisle crossing bi-partisan solutions. In state senate, sponsored 780 bills, 280 were signed into law.
100% approval rating: League of Conservation Voters, Planned Parenthood. National Education Association gives him an “A” on their most recent scorecard. His first year as U.S. Senator, Obama held 39 town hall meetings throughout Illinois, and in senate, sponsored 152 bills and resolutions, and cosponsored 427 more Speaker Harry Reid designated Barack Obama as the Senate point man on ethics. Obama is known
unquestionable ethics and integrity.
Background :
Worked for $13,000 / year helping inner city Chicago poor. Registered 150,000 people to vote. Graduated first black president of Harvard Law Review, passed over 600 high money law firm offers to work for civil rights practice at fractional pay.
State senate :
Adds health insurance for 20,000 children, Welfare reform, Earned income tax credit, increased minimum wage ($5.15 to $6.50). Death penalty reform making interrogations be video taped passed Senate 58-0, signed to law by governor who first opposed Obama’s bill. Sponsored bill probing police profiling. Obama opposed Iraq war publically, long before the invasion. Accurately depicted it as undetermined length, undetermined
cost, undetermined objective, resulting as civil war. Same assessment Bush Sr. & Dick Cheney both gave in early 90’s.
Federal senate :
Worked with republican senator Lugar to expand and author program to locate & dismantle stray Russian WMD’s left over from the cold war after the disbanding of the USSR. Jan. 2007, major ethics/lobbying reform bill, w/ Russ Feingold insisted tougher measures banning lobbyist gifts/ meals/ jets, disclosure of earmark & contribution bundling to candidates or committees; restricts retiring Congress from going into lobbying Toured Kuwait, Jordan, Israel, Palestinian territories, he told Palestinian Authority Abbas that US would never recognize Hamas leaders until they renounced mission to attack Israel. In Africa, publicly took AIDS test as example of responsibility
Obama cosponsored Secure Orderly Immigration Act by John McCain. Passed 62-36. Makes undocumented persons who have been here 5+ years only allowed to stay and apply for citizenship, if pay back taxes, learn English and no criminal record. 2 million undocumented persons who have been in the United States for less than two years would be ordered home. Called for increased fuel efficiency standards (3% / year)
TR...- I truly am impressed with your knowledge of this man-I think that's great! IT STILL DOES NOT TELL ME HOW HE'S GOING TO "CHANGE" THE USA!!!!!!!!!! His supposed changes are still a mystery to everyone-you included.
Interesting how TR and many others leave out the important information. All the organizations of Barry Hussein's "approval list" are far left wing socialist groups that want nothing more than to take your money. Interesting they dog Palin's knowledge but omit the fact that our new Pres-elect thinks we have 57 states. Every day since the RNC on all websites and every news media outlet there were negative(many untrue) stories about Palin and all positive about Barry Hussein. Joe the Plumber asked him a simple question and when Obama answered truthfully "spreading the wealth", the plumber gets investigated and dogged and the Messaiah once again exonerated.
Obama spent many years studying communist and socialist agendas and it is in his blood.
All the bumper sticker chants that everyone quotes says nothing of his plan for this country. Interesting that the stock market has going down several hundred pts each day since the election--Wall street's trust in an Obama Presidency.
Akorn stole votes in key states and the news media doesn't have an investigation.
Akorn and the news media elected Obama--not the majority of AMerica which remains conservative and DID NOT hear the true background and agenda of this Pres-elect..
LBG your party lost , get over it, close the club house, find a new hobby, and most of all stop crying,,,,the liberals are here once again to clean up the crap left by YOUR PARTY,, i think they were called Republican's
Liberals be gone!, he has already significantly changed the USA, but unless we want to employ a fortune teller, nobody can really answer your question, especially if the very informative answer above didn't. I don't know how to answer your question I guess. It was a tremendous change in American politics that he was elected.
LBG: Since you have pegged Obama as Socialist, I would like to point out (before it's too late) that we currently privatize gains and socialize losses.
I know how much of the losses you were forced to absorb without a vote, I'm curious as to how much of the gains were shared with you? So far, I've only been handed losses. That Socialist-style "stimulus package" didn't quite compensate for the dramatic drop in the dollar's value. (If $100K is suddenly only worth $83K, giving me $300 doesn't really change much.)
My point being, we are already using the worst form of Socialism in the free world. Like I said, socializing the losses and privatizing the gains.
Right on! SnapOutOfit
Matter of fact it's not socialism but more like FASCISM
Repugs on this board don't know what either is.
LBG...you mentioned all the wars...all the dems....but none....I repeat...NONE has brought this country to it knees the magnatude of which has never been seen in the History of the world....Bush is an idiot and should be brought up on charges of treason. He has circumvented the constitution and allowed the equivalent of Posse Comitatus on the citizens of this great nation.
He along with his cronies, cheney, rove, bernake, paulsen, rumsfield, and lets not forget the criminal with a badge attorney general gonzales...should all stand trial for crimes against the citizens of the US!
Climb1980:
You find it hard to swallow that the media made fun of Palin? But consider this: if she had not been there, making a total fool of herself in one interview after another, then the media would have been taking a much closer look at McCain himself. Most of his gaffes went unnoticed or ignored because he was just not as much fun as going after Palin.
But McCain said some pretty dumb stuff. Some of it were simple gaffes, like Obama's silly 57 state comment from a very tired man. I can forgive when McCain turns to his rally and says "My fellow prisoners" because he is tired.
But when he confuses She'ite with Sunni, how can we trust him on terrorism? If we can't trust him on terrorism, what else does he have going for him? His quick decisive action? Sure... that worked when he suspended his campaign to "rush" back to Washington (took 24 hours to get there) where he did nothing! He was a mess.
Sarah Palin distracted the media from looking at the idiot at the TOP of the ticket.
And are you saying that we should NOT have fought in WWII or Korea? Clearly we should not have fought in Iraq. It was the wrong war at the wrong time. But blaming WWII on Democrats is a bit much don't you think? Hitler and Hirohito and Mousellini had a bit to do with it... don't you think?
What worries me is not S.Palin. It is the legions of people like you who voted for her.
LBG...did you say 2 minor wars?....uhhh...ok...you tell that to the families of those soldiers who died uselessly....in an illegal war...fighting for a country that couldn't give 2 sh*ts about America...yeah..NO THANKS......I'll leave that one up to you....
Who...--Funny, I haven't seen any Federal Troops walking through my neighborhood enforcing civil law--where do you live that this is happening???????? What about the Great Depression--wasn't the country & world brought to its knees then, or did you forget that one too??
Why don't you seek out some soldiers and see if THEY think anyone died uselessly. I can assure you, being of military family, 99+% of the soldiers know that they're over there for OUR national security concerns. Unfortunately, citizens like YOU choose to "spit"on them, rather than thank them and back them up--remember the returning soldiers from Veitnam and the outrageous way they were (and still are) treated?? If you're too young, I suggest you look it up, and keep your mouth shut since you don't know what you're talking about!
Bobr--remember when this USED to be the USA?? Now it's a 3rd world nation thanks to YOUR party (the Dems) and I can't get over it (this disgraceful situation)
LBG....I'll give you a pass with you're obviously ignorant statement about me spitting on vets....I say ignorant because you've either not seen any of my other posts....or you are in fact just ignorant.
I survived the jungles of Vietnam...one of the lucky ones....We were the ones spit on dude...we were the baby killers....don't you dare attempt to lecture me on war budroe.....I've seen more death to last a hundred lifetimes....so pull your head out of your as$...
if ANY soldier actually enjoys war...they're sick....there is nothing gallant about war...its blood...and loss of friends....I lost many friends....we were kids...fighting for what?....because we thought it was our duty.....nothing more....nothing less....but...once I got back...I came to my senses....that war...just as the current war in iraq....was useless...and unnecessary....and maybe you can remember this the next time you want to think there is something heroic about war.....hundreds of vietnam vets....came back...and went to washington...and threw their friggen medals...on the white house lawn....now....that's heroric to me.....so like I said....back the f*ck off!
Who...--I only see the posts listed here--I don't follow your thoughts from page to page.
Obviously I have no way of knowing who or what your are-well I know what you are, but we'll leave that one alone.
In any case, I never said war was fun, nor did I say one should enjoy it. It's a messy business, but in the end, sometimes we do what needs to be done.
Since you clearly can't read into what I was saying, I'm on YOUR side--I think the way all Vets are treated is despicable!
Just so you know, war was your duty, is the duty of every serving soldier today, and will be the duty of everyone signing up in the future. No one put a gun to our heads when we signed up-we all knew what we where doing. What did you think-I'll sign up for 3 squares & roof over my head?? What does the oath say?? It's not a free ride, my friend, so why not take your own advice and get your head out of your a$$.
Lastly, per your post 11/7/08--11:51AM--why is the Iraq war illegal?????
The Iraq war is illegal because it violates International Law.
We may not like the reality of what is required under that Law, a country must be attacked or invaded before they declare war upon another country.
Iraq had not attacked the US nor invaded the US. And as it turns out - gee - guess what they didn't have any weapon's of mass destruction either. And guess what else? Our own intelligence (CIA) had let our President and VP know that this was most likely the case as well.
But guess what country does have plenty of WMD's? The US. Unfortunately, the US has set a dangerous precedent (that means rule - derived from judgement or action) that a country can invade another just because they fear what they will do with their WMD's.
Anyone else feel the fear here? Look at where Russia's politics are going - and we have set up this precedent that you can attack another country if you are afraid of them - or their weapons.
Any lawyer could tell you the war in Iraq was illegal - that was why I didn't vote for Hillary - she knew better - but made the political decision.
International law is followed because countries realize they need some basic form of order in the world to avoid some of the great tragedies such as WWI and WWII not to mention the various wars between kingdoms prior to our countries existence.
Do the terrorists, who incidentally set the game & the rules up, follow that law?? Should any country follow it if it comprimises national security?? Absolutely not! International Laws are set for the benefit of mankind, assuming the players are just. Terrorists are neither just or honorable, being a cowardly lot. This is a match they want to play, we need to stoop (unfortunately) to their level in order to protect OUR national interests.
Lastly, if Bush didn't play the waiting game with the UN (because of International Law), maybe the outcome would have been different now, both abroad and here at home (Obama as President??--despicable!)
Sara Palin was & is breath of fresh air, she is a person that had some guts to take on her own party for corruption, I can not say that for any other politician of either party they seem to be just a bunch of good ole boy & Fienstien & Polosi,Reed Kennedys,Bush & McCain. Its time to get them all out of Office wishful thinking
There was only one reason I voted for the Liberal McCain was because of Sara Palin on the ticket.
I would Like to see a Romney Palin ticket.Romney didn't get it because he is a Mormon. I don't give a @!$%# What Religion a Person is as long as they keep their Religion out of Politics.These so called Christian that bash each other I just don't Get. If you believe in God it should not make any difference what you are.
I would like to see someone like a Romney that knows how to run a business and balance a budget and doesn't spend more than they have run this country the Greatest Nation on Earth,But is now floundering under these Old Politicians & Liberals & Attorneys.
And by the the way if Bush doesn't Pardon the two Mexican Border Patrol Agents that were doing their job and release them from prison he should be Tared & Feathered and Sent to Mexico since he wouldn't secure our borders.
They all talk the talk about Home Land Security But Without Ours Borders Secure This Nation Has No Security Period!!!! Our good ole so called Politicans
I also beleive in letting people come to this country IF they Apply and come in Legally
You sir, are an idiot and I suspect you are a fake poster. Religion out of politics and Palin? The woman believed the war in Iraq and her precious pipeline and bridges were sent from God. You're crazy.
sorry Mike but she is THE reason McCAin lost in the first place. The only way she should be allowed to run in "12 is if her lips and tongue are super glued!
Sorry Frances...But without Palin, McCain would have won no states! McCain himself is and will always be the only reason for his loss...he's a clown...simply a democrat claiming to be a republican...just like Arlen Specter.
Yes, Palin made a few mistakes while being cross examined, by Katie and others, instead of just being interviewed. Would have been nice is she was treated like your pretty boy was. She made no mistakes giving campaign speeches unlike O's number 2 clown Biden, guess thats why he was kept out of the public eye the closer we got to the vote.
I believe in the right to vote and that every vote counts, but sometimes....Lord, sometimes...need I say anymore!
All of you ignorent idiots should try to run for office of some kind. You spend most of your time expecting handouts. What is it about palin does she scare you guys? Lets see she does run a government what do you idiots do run a home or maybe lets see little league team. What a bunch of bafoons. Sarah Palin is a woman that has had the chance to participate in something most of you dead beets will never dream of accomplisijng. With that said I think she has more experience than the aberage JOE!!!
Well, for starters, she doesn't understand even the fundamentals of the Constitution, her handlers (WTF kind of label is that anyway?) are now telling the press she didn't know Africa was a continent, and her foreign policy expertise is her ability to see Russia from her house.
Umm, that's pretty scary when you are considering an individual for Commander in Chief.
TN101 Sarah is a commander & chief. remember she is the commander & chief of a national guard unit that guards the nuc's, that point at russia. She has the highest security clearance of any of the Gov.'s & Senators in the country.
That's really interesting. What's your source? Please, please, please, don't say Rush Limbaugh...please.
Dear Hobie....pretty common knowledge that Sarah has the highest security clearance.
If that's the case, than better put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.
I wouldn't let her near a microwave.
Fact is, NO Governor has ANY control over ANY Nukes so this post is a joke and not funny.
dagman....finally some intellect.....love the microwave thingy....lol
There is no question that if they run her she will lose.
This is why she will never be allowed to run by the RNC.
Hey!! Sanchez!! I think all the war-time vets on this thread have participated in something a hell-of-a-lot more impressive than Sarah Palin. We actually put our as$es on the line for our Country. We actually went to foreign places as opposed to "lookin' out the back door"! As "who knew" said "back the f--- off with the sarah palin mess and get your other head working.
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only if it ensures that a democrat wins!